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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Disabled Student
Services in Higher Education <DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU>
[mailto:Disabled Student Services in Higher Education
<DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU>] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Bonnie Martin <bmartin@GPC.EDU><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 14, 2007
2:41 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Study Abroad</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Remember, 504/ADA are thresholds. It does not mean a college
"should <br>
not" provide access abroad. We had a deaf student planning a study <br>
abroad a couple of summers ago. Our D/HH Coordinator was a certified <br>
interpreter and a full-time staff member. We planned to pay her travel <br>
expenses (flight, hotel and food) and she was to interpret as needed for <br>
the whole 6 weeks. She, of course, was to keep her regular salary, but <br>
that is from a different budget :-). When I showed administrators how <br>
much "operating" money I could save doing it this way, they had no <br>
qualms adding to the department travel budget. <br>
<br>
Bonnie Martin <br>
Georgia Perimeter College <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
________________________________ <br>
<br>
From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education <br>
< DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU> [mailto:Disabled Student Services in <br>
Higher Education < DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU>] On Behalf Of
"Appell, <br>
Stephen" < SAppell@VC.WISC.EDU> <br>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:45 PM <br>
To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU <br>
Subject: Re: Study Abroad <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sorry to repeat Howie's typo. He meant Title II. <br>
<br>
-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education <br>
[mailto:DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Appell, Stephen <br>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:43 PM <br>
To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU <br>
Subject: Re: Study Abroad <br>
<br>
<br>
Please take a look at what Howie says. <br>
<br>
"OCR has taken the position that neither Title I of the ADA nor Section <br>
504 apply overseas. This is based on a Supreme Court decision under <br>
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which held that a law doesn't <br>
apply overseas unless it specifically says it does. Neither of these <br>
statutes say that they apply overseas. This is true regardless of <br>
whether the program is run by the university or by another entity. <br>
However, the laws would apply to everything that happens in the US in <br>
preparation for the trip -- e.g., if you had a planning meeting for the <br>
participants, you would have to provide an interpreter for the student <br>
at that meeting." <br>
<br>
.................................................................. <br>
Howard Kallem <br>
Office of Equity and Diversity Services <br>
George Mason University <br>
703 993 8730 <br>
<br>
-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education <br>
[mailto:DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Stacey Reycraft <br>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:38 PM <br>
To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU <br>
Subject: Re: Study Abroad <br>
<br>
<br>
I'm with Carol on this one. It is my understanding that study abroad <br>
programs can fall into two categories: <br>
<br>
If the study abroad program involves the student enrolling in a <br>
foreign institution or program, taught by foreign faculty, available <br>
to foreign students, then US laws and regulations won't <br>
apply. However, if the program involves the student enrolling in a <br>
University sponsored program, taught and supervised by University <br>
staff and faculty, available only to University students, and it just <br>
happens to be taught in a foreign country, then US laws and <br>
regulations may, in fact, apply. <br>
<br>
This is a fascinating subject! <br>
<br>
Stacey <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
At 11:27 AM 9/14/2007, Carol Burrowbridge wrote: <br>
>I can't put my hand on the source right now, but I have always <br>
>understood that if a study abroad class was for credit at a US <br>
>university and sponsored by the US university, that students were <br>
>accorded accommodations similar to those they would get at their home <br>
>institution here in the US. I will try to find the source and <br>
post it. <br>
> <br>
>Carole Burrowbridge, MS <br>
>Coordinator <br>
>Disability Support Services <br>
>Mercer University <br>
>Connell Student Center <br>
>1400 Coleman Ave <br>
>Macon, GA 31207 <br>
>Phone (478) 301-2778 <br>
>Fax (478) 301-2127 <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
>Howard Kallem wrote: <br>
> <br>
>>Michael, <br>
>> <br>
>>Thanks for clarifying this for everyone. My original message was <br>
>>incorrect -- I typed "Title I" when I meant "Title
II." To be clear, <br>
>>what I meant to say was that OCR has taken the position that neither <br>
>>Title II of the ADA nor Section 504 of the Rehab Act apply to American <br>
>>college students studying overseas. <br>
>> <br>
>>Howard Kallem <br>
>>Office of Equity and Diversity Services <br>
>>George Mason University <br>
>>703 993 8730 <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>>Michael Yared wrote: <br>
>> <br>
>>>Howard, yes, the ADA apply overseas to any U.S. companies and U.S. <br>
>>>subsidary regardless of whether they are the recipient of federal <br>
>>>contracts assistance or not. see: Application of the Americans with
<br>
>>>Disabilities Act (ADA) for Overseas Employment & Foreign
Employers in <br>
>>>the United States at <br>
>>>http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/extraterritorial-vii-ada.html <br>
>>> <br>
>>>For U.S. federal employees with disabilities, Section 501 of the <br>
>>>Rehabilitation Act of 1973 apply to them. They are working <br>
>>>overseas/aboard for the Department of State, Department of Defense,
<br>
>>>the intelligence community, etc, etc. The federal government is <br>
>>>excepted from the ADA. <br>
>>> <br>
>>>there is nothing about disability or disabled in Title VII of the <br>
>>>Civil Rights Act of 1964. Why would OCR cited this law? There are <br>
>>>intepreters in the UK who also know American Sign Language. <br>
>>> <br>
>>>All U.S. military installations and U.S. embassies overseas/aboard <br>
>>>apply too under the Access Board at <a
href="http://www.access-board.gov/ufas/">http://www.access-board.gov/ufas/</a> <br>
>>> <br>
>>>for disabled kids of U.S. military personnel stationed overseas <br>
>>>(Germany, Italy, UK, Japan, South Korea, etc) the IDEA apply too
and <br>
>>>Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 regardless of what
the <br>
>>>different general counsels at DOD of different presidential <br>
>>>administration wrote/stated. <br>
>>> <br>
>>>see <a href="http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/adadocs.html">http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/adadocs.html</a>
and www.disability.gov <br>
>>> <br>
>>>Universities are spending millions of dollars for students of
ethnic <br>
>>>and racial groups. It should be the same for SWDs. <br>
>>> <br>
>>>Mike Yared <br>
>>> <br>
>>>>From: Howard Kallem < hkallem@GMU.EDU> <br>
>>>>Subject: Re: Study Tour <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>OCR has taken the position that neither Title I of the ADA nor <br>
>>>>Section 504 apply overseas. This is based on a Supreme Court <br>
>>>>decision under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which
held <br>
>>>>that a law doesn't apply overseas unless it specifically says
it <br>
>>>>does. Neither of these statutes say that they apply overseas.
This <br>
<br>
>>>>is true regardless of whether the program is run by the
university <br>
>>>>or by another entity. However, the laws would apply to
everything <br>
>>>>that happens in the US in preparation for the trip -- e.g., if
you <br>
>>>>had a planning meeting for the participants, you would have to <br>
>>>>provide an interpreter for the student at that meeting. <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>To be honest, I'm not sure what a study tour is. If it is a <br>
>>>>required part of a course, then the university would likely be <br>
>>>>required to provide the student with an alternative study tour
in <br>
>>>>the US that would meet the program's requirements (or identify
one <br>
>>>>at another school). <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>Howard Kallem <br>
>>>>Office of Equity and Diversity Services <br>
>>>>George Mason University <br>
>>>>703 993 8730 <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
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